Lorde is continuing to discuss her gender identity in a new interview set to air on ABC.
The New Zealand-born pop star, 28, sat down with Zan Rowe for the latest episode of the series, Take 5.
In a wide-ranging conversation, Lorde details some of her favourite songs and the songs that have most shaped her life.
Zan brought up the track Man Of The Year, from Lorde’s latest album Virgin, asking the singer about the meaning behind the lyric: ‘I take my knife and I cut the cord.’
‘What was the cord that you cut?’ Zan asked, to which Lorde replied that she was referencing the ending of a relationship.
‘But I see now that a few cords were cut,’ Lorde explained.
Lorde is continuing to discuss her gender identity in a new interview set to air on ABC
‘Just also deciding to not keep policing my body in the way that I had been – I had a period of not eating very much.’
Lorde continued, revealing that another tie that was severed was a ‘version of femininity’ that she had previously embraced, adding that she is now a ‘much different woman.’
‘This cord cut between me and kind of femininity that I had been attached to for as long as I’d felt like a girl,’ she said.
‘I don’t know if I’d ever really felt like a woman before that point. I just sort of chose to take myself off the map in a few ways.’
She added: ‘I sit before you a very different woman to the one I was. I feel like anything is possible for me.’
It comes after Lorde opened up about her identity dysphoria after she was accused of ‘gender baiting’ in a recent interview.
She posed for a striking series of snaps with Dazed magazine before sitting down to talk about her life, confessing: ‘I’ve constantly f***ed up since I was a teenager’.
Lorde – who uses she/her pronouns – came under fire in May when she appeared to come out as non-binary in an ambiguous interview.
The New Zealand-born pop star, 28, sat down with Zan Rowe for the latest episode of the series, Take 5
Lorde revealed the meaning behind her lyrics to Man of the Year that a tie that was severed was a ‘version of femininity’ that she had previously embraced
In a chat for Rolling Stone, Chappell Roan asked Lorde if she was non-binary, to which she replied: ‘I’m a woman except for the days when I’m a man,’ adding she fell ‘in the middle gender wise’ but still identifies as a cis woman.
Pressed on the matter in her chat with Dazed, Lorde confessed that she’d ‘misquoted’ Chappell asking if she was non-binary, admitting: ‘I feel really bad. She said, very sweetly, something like, “So your pronouns are changing?”’
Clarifying her identity, she said that some days she ‘can’t wear women’s clothes’ and there are days when she feels ‘totally out-of-body’.
Lorde added that she felt a ‘pure version’ of herself when she first bound her chest to give the illusion of having no breasts, but said she was still on a journey to figure out what her identity meant to her.
She explained: ‘I just think it takes time to metabolise and find itself. I’m excited to find out where that lands, if it ever does land. Your whole life it keeps unfurling.’
Lorde also candidly discussed her use of ecstasy, known chemically as MDMA or Molly.
She previously credited MDMA therapy – taking a controlled dose of the drug in a supervised medical setting, alongside sessions with a trained therapist – with helping her overcome her stage fright
Doubling down on her remarks, when asked if MDMA was ‘her drug’ of choice, she simply stated: ‘Yeah’.
‘I don’t know if I’d ever really felt like a woman before that point. I just sort of chose to take myself off the map in a few ways,’ she said
Lorde – who uses she/her pronouns – came under fire in May when she appeared to come out as non-binary in an ambiguous interview
Yet when asked when she first took the drug, she confessed: ‘Too young.’
Reflecting on how drug chemistry affects perception, she went on to speak about her battle with premenstrual dysphoric disorder – a very severe form of PMS that causes a range of emotional and physical symptoms in the week or two before a period.
Lorde explained: ‘When I came off my birth control, I had these very significant dips in mood every month and got diagnosed with PMDD, which is a proper clinical depression that happens cyclically.
‘There’s actual treatment for it – I take the tiniest dose of Prozac, snapped in half, once a month. And it genuinely has made a huge difference to me. It’s been, like, exact days of the month – but it’s changed the game.’
Lorde has been making a musical comeback this year, sending fans into a frenzy back in April when she released her first new music in four years.
Take 5 With Zan Rowe airs on ABC at 8.30pm on Tuesday and on ABC iView.
